A Question I Was Asked:

Is God Reproducing Himself?

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I know that you were once influenced by Herbert Armstrong, albeit many years ago, just as I was, before I learned better. He used to say that "God is reproducing Himself" - that is, through us believers. I take it that you no longer believe that, and yet - as saved people who are 'sons and daughters' of God - we will surely be above the level of the angels, so is that not still a reasonable proposition?

UK Apologetics Reply:

No, it is not. It is true that called and chosen Christian believers will eventually be above the level of the angels, but not just yet:

4. what is mankind that you are mindful of them, human beings that you care for them? 5. You have made them a little lower than the angels and crowned them with glory and honor. 6. You made them rulers over the works of your hands; you put everything under their feet: 7. all flocks and herds, and the animals of the wild, 8. the birds in the sky, and the fish in the sea, all that swim the paths of the seas. 9. Lord, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! (Psalm 8:4-9).

Also this:

13. To which of the angels did God ever say, "Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet"? 14. Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation? (Hebrews 1:13-14).

So we should note that it is true believers who are to 'inherit salvation.' No Scripture anywhere in the Bible talks about the angels "inheriting salvation" Why? Because they already have a particular form of eternal life which God has granted to them; they cannot qualify for the full 'body and soul' salvation which men and women made in God's image may attain.

16. What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people." 17. Therefore, "Come out from them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you." 18. And, "I will be a Father to you, and you will be my sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty." (2 Corinthians 6:16-18).

All of this does indeed show that God wants an eternal relationship with the saved of the Earth, an eternal relationship in which He looks upon the redeemed as His very children and yes, that would place the redeemed of the Earth above the angelic realm.

But does all of this go as far as to say that, in creating us, "God is reproducing Himself"? No, I don't think that it does; the whole Bible shows that God is utterly unique; yes, He wants to save us and, in fact, planned the salvation of the saints from the creation of the Earth (Revelation 13:8), yes, He created us in order for us to share eternity with Him, yet not for us to be God as God is God - not a single Scripture ever suggests that the saved can ever join the Godhead - yet that is what Armstrong believed (although he did not believe in a three-point Godhead - Father, Son and Holy Spirit; he saw God as being an open family with the saved to join later).

It seems that those saved from among men and women - having formerly experienced earthly physical life - are then saved for eternity (Armstrong did understand this part), but the lower form of eternal life of the angelic realm were once able to go into rebellion (Satan and the demons); I think this is as far as we can currently understand this matter.

Robin A. Brace. June 20th-21st, 2019.